FEMALE PROSE AND BABSKY PROSE - TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

Let's begin, perhaps, with the following. The fantasy is ancient enough genre, and is primary it has been assigned to a male, that is us :-). How it has turned out so, what women have intruded, understand, in primordially man's sphere of action? :-) How they there have got and what they there do?! :-)

Dmitry Volodihin: I, generally, think, that a fantasy - that which we know - not very much and ancient. It has appeared on a boundary of the XIX-XX-th centuries and has blossomed already in the middle of the XX-th century. Our Soviet fantasy of a golden time androginna, srednepola. Whether the muzhik writes, whether the woman - all the same. They approximately write same, and Ariadna Gromova does not differ at all from Dmitry Bilenkina. And Zhuravlyov, say, will not differ from any Dneprova on the style. And the floor psychology in the text is not expressed in any way. The female fantasy has begun in the ninetieth, maybe, partly the forerunner of a female fantasy there was Olga Larionov. Sincerely I respect her as the writer, liked once it to read, but it was, perhaps, unique such little bird who was able to do it. Was able to make impression not upon readers, and on readers. Rather female prose has arisen from the beginning of the ninetieth years, that's all. And why it so …

Vlad Menshov: And I here think … (oooochen a long pause)

vlad Maryin: I think, that first of all simply it is less than women-visionaries, and among them there are less than stars, than among men. And, perhaps, it is unique supervision which I can make. Why so - I do not know it.

Dmitry Yankovsky: The matter is that I never analyzed this question, because personally for me in general any interest does not represent - female prose or man's, the woman writes or the man writes, readers all the same same.

Well, to a question on readers we still will return … then …

Vlad Menshov: I Think! … a question foolish …

And I after all from the very beginning warned … And not foolish, and provokatsionnyj:-) …

Vlad Menshov: In my opinion, at us concepts "female prose" and "babskaja prose" very often are substituted. Female prose - well, it, let us assume, Fransuaza Sagan, places - Alexander Sashneva; and is babskaja - snotty, worthless, opposite, unpleasant. I do not know even as women read.

It turns out, that at us babskoj prose, unfortunately, much more, than female. It is possible to explain it somehow, at your sight?

Vlad Menshov: Naturally. You never estimated, what on light a percentage parity of fools? Percent eighty!

Dmitry Yankovsky: Max, I can tell … I for a long time thought here over it simply, and have generated for myself quite accurate opinion in this respect. On a joint of the eightieth years, the middle of the eightieth years, there has passed a writing wave as that, writers. That is one wave should be replaced by other wave. And between waves always there is such silent creek when publish books - not writers in general. And here now echoes of this moment also are. But now all of them will die and again there are writers. And them will be a little. Here if were - who there earlier? … Strugatsky, Krapivin, Gevorkyan … well who there still was? Whom read? … Kir Bulychyov …

Yes generally was … much

Dmitry Yankovsky: Yes is not present, not much! That's just the point, that it is a little! Was writers a little. Snow was, well, Tupitsyn - with a scratch … though it already, of course, on the verge fola. And nepisatelej which published - their large quantity. And that vlad has named babskoj prose - yes any it not babskaja! Man's same prose - shaft was, and shaft it publish - "the Absolute weapon" take, there to its fig, such prose …

Vlad Menshov: Dim, I will interrupt … You under nepisateljami understand those who should not to these be engaged is better?

Dmitry Yankovsky: Yes!

Vlad Menshov: Well here I under "babskoj prose" meant the same …

Dmitry Volodihin: nepisatel is a worthless writer, and babskaja the prose is a prose of those women which badly write.

(Total laughter)

vlad Maryin: And it seems to me, that babskaja the prose is written strictly for women, but much less man's prose - let even from among bad writers - which are written strictly for muzhiks. I think, that bad writers - muzhiks write, women too read. And here that bad writers - women write, that is that vlad has named "babskoj prose", women read. In it, likely, difference. And here that vlad has named "female prose", that is more decent - it is more universal, that is it is difficult for dividing to a sexual sign of readers.

Dmitry Volodihin: I do not absolutely agree … Just so it has turned out, that I on this theme do article for "If", and the idea here what - a female fantasy has really appeared in the early nineties because all basic reference points on which was identified by the person living in the Union have been destroyed. He did not understand - that it the citizen, in what he believes and eventually has started to understand with bases - to what it precisely belongs. To any floor it precisely belongs? Well, it is good - "ja-man", "ja-woman". And it has started to formulate for itself(himself) - that such "ja-man" or "ja-woman". And women were developed by the first. Business not that women steadier against shocks …

Dmitry Yankovsky: They much less "citizens", than men!

Dmitry Volodihin: Perhaps, there can be … They the first have thought - what is it it is necessary to write, it is claimed. And the first have begun … well if not to confess, floor psychology to put in the text. Not necessarily good text - androginnyj the text. Can be and on the contrary. The psychology of a floor enclosed in the text, can give both very good result, and very bad. Prose there Sashnevoj or Haetsky, we will admit - it strongly pronounced female because there the floor psychology very well in the text is looked through. There is a good prose and bad prose. And, for example, prose Ugrjumovoj - there too is fine enclosed in the text floor psychology, and it turns out dermovo. And sense here in what? At first they have shown, that in the text it is possible, not looking at various public installations to state expectations, dreams, archetypes can be, which are put in pawn very deeply in psychology, and have stated all it. And it was then found out, what already we needed to define - and what we such? The male is that? That do we want, that we achieve? Only actually! Not that it is accepted to think - the man wants here it, and that actually somewhere in depth is hidden; can be, it is silly, maybe, it ugly, maybe, it is banal. It also is a kernel. And can be, it is beautiful, fairly clever and nebanalno. And here in the answer, actually, on female prose, also the man's was born. And, say, machismo which was covered at Zlotnikov, at Orlova, at Golovachyov is one variant of that the man wants. There is in Russia a cult of the member of spetsnaz is what does not suffice in a normal life. And two thirds of man's population of Russia which plainly also do not know, what is it such, mentally try on on themselves a camouflage, a black beret, and it would be desirable to be abrupt, and to scribble from the automatic machine, and so on. Besides - facing the present things he, maybe, never any more will not want it. But, nevertheless, the desire is, therefore this literature will read. But - the woman has a stereotype of the amazon, the princess, menestrelki, magichki. At us - the macho. And what? We have "officer-attendant" at Rybakova, we have a person who by miracle managed a certain force and which by means of this force from the way dumps all barriers and logs. It is Thunders - "Calculator" …

The same of Fishermen - "the Person opposite".

Dmitry Volodihin: Yes! Fishermen, "the Person opposite". And, no, not absolutely … Here at Lukina in "a justice Zone" there is and at Rybakova in the story … My God … "One day of Ivan Ilicha", whether that, the story is called … there there is still a person who precisely realises, that no wonderful force to it will come, and it on what is not capable, because he is a sickly intellectual, and at the best it will protect any certain principles …

Addressing to all Rybakovu - "it is difficult to same to become the god" …

Dmitry Volodihin: Mmm. Yes! And there the person at the best can is beautiful offer itself. To rush under the car, for example. Or, I do not know, other form - to fool around. Here he tries to protect that at it inside is, for what it clings. And a great bulk of men which exist in Russia - they under this category fall. They it is unique, on what are capable are on a beautiful victim. Unfortunately … Also there is a type rare enough and not all perceived, but for me very attractive is that vlad - not in all novels, and, say, in "Interpretation of dreams" has described is a type of the man-owner, the mister, the master. It it is possible to name conditionally the rock-climber - it is typed experience which can be received in a real life, and by means of this experience clambers to tops. It has laid down to itself(himself) the aim - and it to it goes. It is one more such constant which is put in pawn very deeply. It is our variant, I do not know, magichki or menestrelki there, it is that type which in man's bashke never will run low just as in the female the type magichki and menestrelki will not run low. Our answer CHemberlenu, whether that …

Clearly. In that case, if we abstract from female prose and babskoj prose - which not prose in general, and we will speak only about female and man's prose in a fantasy - it is possible to spend between them any border? If it is possible so to be expressed - a watershed? There are any typical lines inherent only by it?

Dmitry Yankovsky: Yes is not present, them distinguishes nothing. In any case - good prose, modern good prose, should distinguish - irrespective of man's and from female - floor psychology inside, that has told Volodihin. It simply turns out more fairly and, accordingly, more interestingly. And the watershed any is not present.

Coming back to a question on readers. Can be so, what the female and man's prose has different readers, or the person with identical success will absorb also that, and other prose?

vlad Maryin: I here wish to tell here, that in general it is very interesting to think of it, I will result even a concrete example. Truskinovsky has interested me as the reader small rasskazikami, published in "If". I have bought its book and the wife washing has read it before me - with the great pleasure. It liked there, "the Monk and a cat", it seems … And that's it I now read this thing. And my wife spoke: "It so in a female way, I so understand all …". And I specially for it have bought still the book Truskinovsky …

Specially for it. And for itself?

vlad Maryin: Well … simply it was … usually I read the first books and to it I advise, that it was pleasant to me. But in the given situation, means … here … it has turned out on the contrary. I have started to read this thing and while - I do not know, how much I there have read, somewhere - I yet do not understand less half, that in it good. It seems to me, that it ordinary enough; can be, in the end there all will reveal … To my wife it was interesting to read the text, that is its text conducted. That is, likely, there are different audiences. Though here its other stories have very much liked me.

Dmitry Volodihin: Here an example close to that vlad speaks. There is at Maria Semenovoj a cycle "Wolfhound". All the same it - one of mothers of the Russian fantasy female. Well? My mother and I reads. Mother tests huge pleasure: "Buy to me still!", I after the 100-th page start to miss. To me it is uninteresting and it somehow is not quite natural to me at all.

Dmitry Yankovsky: the Question: and Fransuaza Sagan?

Dmitry Volodihin: And Fransuazu Sagan I, unfortunately, very badly know. Many female things very much like me. I test huge pleasure from Haetsky. Very much it is pleasant to me of Kopylov, me like - let not all - to thing Eliseevoj. I like novel Sashnevoj "the Narcosis will not be", Larionov to me very much liked. But understand, what thing - all depends on a tooling. And if something distinguishes the text besides floor psychology is a tooling which we choose. The female prose as it seems to me is a prose of conditions, the man's prose is a prose of actions. We can move slightly but when the woman selects the toolkit close to man's, that is it does prose of actions, to read not so interestingly.

Dmitry Yankovsky: When I read "Traitor" Divova, for example, I have understood, that he is able to write conditions...

vlad Maryin: Perhaps, I will agree that the man writes texts of actions more, and the woman - is more texts of conditions, and here there are also texts of thoughts. That is likely it is more interesting to men - I do not know, will agree with me present?-Write the fantastic thing interesting by the idea. Or I am mistaken also simply female texts less?

Dmitry Volodihin: I do not know, nevertheless it seems to me - equally.

vlad Maryin: And more I wish to tell - here Dmitry Volodihin said, that female by the first was defined as female, then men had to be defined too - as to man's prose. But it seems to me, strongly pronounced sexual, so to say, the vector is not present at that level as we speak - in female prose, instead of in babskoj. In babskoj just there is very strong female vector - they have defined: "here our female prose". For qualitative man's and female prose it not so strongly operates.

That is it turns out, what women have won to themselves a certain priority earlier exit on this market?

Dmitry Yankovsky: No, they are simply steadier against the perturbations occurring in a society. The woman much more the woman, than the citizen of the country.

Dmitry Volodihin: have fast come to …

Here at us and conversation has crept from female prose on conversation "for women" as over those.

Dmitry Yankovsky: That is why, that there is no watershed, in my opinion. To speak about female and man's prose there is no sense and if there is a sense to speak - that about women and men.

Vlad Menshov: I here sat, thought and have understood suddenly, that such an ideal of man's, really man's image of the world and just the novel of thoughts - in the worst kind. It Efremov! (The general laughter) I do not like the fascist! (The general long laughter) the Obvious macho, absolutely rustic things.

Dmitry Yankovsky: About "a razor Edge" I with Divovym agree all hundred fifty seven percent, especially its interpretation tselesoobraznostej …

Here the word "interpretation" and all its derivatives was pledged to all of you today! …

(The general laughter, is most allocated for some reason party Divova :-))

Dmitry Volodihin: And I agree … Most likely - and "Fog Andromedy" too.

Vlad Menshov: And "Fog Andromedy" too! There it is simple not so obviously, but there already it is necessary to understand - who wrote it, what for he wrote …

Dmitry Yankovsky: And in "a razor Edge" it simply did not hesitate …

Vlad Menshov: … especially - under early stories …

… and now from women the theme has smoothly passed on Efremova …

Dmitry Yankovsky: And actually anything surprising is not present, has what is it passed on Efremova because Efremov is an especial writer, it read approximately … well, I read it approximately at the same time when I read Strugatsky, but as though a little bit earlier. I Also read Efremova because I was palmed off by his parents. I it would not take.

And there was nothing to palm off at that time more. Well, Kazantsev still …

Dmitry Yankovsky: But not in it business! If there was a choice between Efremovym and Kazantsev my choice at that time was for Efremova. And why? I had a youthful hypertoxicosis. And these illustrations all here in the fitted suits is, as a matter of fact, there was a theme for drochki.

(Violent Zaporozhye gogot present)

(ukazuja a finger on a dictophone): And here it, by the way, writes!

(A collective laughter)

Dmitry Yankovsky: It I see, that it writes. But it indeed! As the writer, it is awful! But here on this youthful background it it is class prokatyval.

Dmitry Volodihin: At it it is very good - and till now it is very good - one thing is looked only. From my point of view, Efremov as the writer was lost for a long time …

Dmitry Yankovsky: … "On the brink Ojkumeny" …

Dmitry Volodihin: … and good things - only early. Really, "On the brink Ojkumeny", and, first of all - stories of the fortieth years. Geological stories, paleontologic …

And nevertheless, coming back to subjects of women in the literature, and the literature, the female literature and everything, that only it is possible to form women from these words …

Vladimir Stankovich (running up to a table): I here was precipitately eliminated …

Op-pas … Well time so has precipitately left - well tell something good!

Vladimir Stankovich: He is Vladimir Stankovich, the deputy the editor-in-chief of magazine "Star Road" …

… has precipitately returned … and we today without titles …

(Laughter)

Vladimir Stankovich: At me now a sight purely utilitarian, editorial and litagentsky. Pay attention, after all that there spoke, but a great bulk of readers of a fantasy are men. And it is no wonder, that a great bulk of science fiction writers are the men writing for men. And for men basically teenage and youthful age …

It already any magazine "Playboy" turns out, instead of a fantasy …

Vladimir Stankovich: we Take, for example, a series "Absolute weapon". In it - and it somewhere hundred with superfluous names - left only two women. The first is known for much from present Maria Simonov which books it is possible to characterise as "machismo in a skirt" …

Dmitry Volodihin (somehow obrechenno sighing): amazons …

Vladimir Stankovich: No, just its heroes are men.

A series "Absolute weapon" is a melancholy on the big muscles, a laser sight in an eye and to a beret is dashing broken on any of ears …

Vladimir Stankovich: Yes...

Dmitry Yankovsky: This series to the literature of the relation has no …

Vlad Menshov: … in most cases.

Vladimir Stankovich: And the second is Tver writer Irina Krupennikova published at my participation.

Vlad Menshov: You have forgotten two more, at least. This single was performance - Sinjavsky and then, Maxim Golitsyn. We yet do not know, how much such Maksimov Golitsynyh!

Vladimir Stankovich: I mean those who left openly and have declared myself as about the woman in a fantasy.

By the way, and than such desire of women can be caused - especially in the beginning it was appreciable - to hide under any pseudonym? Under man's or under English-speaking, a-lja Medelajn Simmons …

Dmitry Yankovsky: I, as worked in different publishing houses the editor, know at least one party of this medal. And editors under a man's pseudonym force such things to publish!

Dmitry Volodihin: First, I completely agree, and secondly, in the early nineties the inquiry was more all the same on the western fantasy. And then to women really gave pseudonyms any - man's, female, if only English-speaking. And Medelajn Simmons is just such … I at all I do not know … vykormysh time.

Dim, then at me to you a personal question - as to the honourable editor of all on light at once. What prisnouzhasnye and terrible animals editors force women to take man's pseudonyms is caused than?

Dmitry Yankovsky: it is caused by Nothing. The matter is that the editor - and more often not the editor, and the manager on sales - sells not good things. It has a habit - to sell. That at it was on sale already, he tries sdublirovat, sklonirovat, everything to make. But he likes to sell that is able to sell because to sell another - other ability is necessary already.

Dmitry Volodihin: Here here what thing. Women write under man's names when that they write, it is possible to attach to concept NF conditionally. If it is a fantasy there women are already recognised, there anything to change it is not necessary. Yes there and readers as much if it is no more, as well as readers. And here in science fiction men-writers and men-readers still prevail. And there really to sell the woman-writer a little it is more difficult …

Dmitry Yankovsky: I Will add Dimu Volodihina … The matter is that women - best of them, here is how Divov has told, that there are writers - they are capable generit very original, fantastic ideas. I not by hearsay can tell, that women are capable of it and do it with the big success.

Such here the piece turns out … Give I Semenovu poprepariruju, whether that, a little bit … the Midwife of Russian fantasy, the godmother of all Russian-fentezijnogo. One my familiar young lady when has fairly mastered already integral two volumes of "Wolfhound" - then it was all cycle, lines knows, how much them now … - and so, has taken out a verdict: "At the author melancholy on the male". (The general laughter) It, I repeat, not I have told! It has told a female being!!! The wolfhound, the huge, mighty muzhik with raspolosovannoj a mug, wanders … female characters somewhere there in a shade dangle … the Male with a sword napereves …

Dmitry Yankovsky: No, the Wolfhound - it not the male …

Really a female?! …

Dmitry Yankovsky: … and it have noticed on the same "the Star Bridge" where on it an epigram have written … What is it - the male without genitals beseeming to the male, that is all at it is present, that should be at the male, besides, that, actually, and does it by the male …

Dmitry Volodihin: Stop-stop stop … My God as there … "… man's it is a lot of in him the beginning, man's is not present in him the end" …

Nevertheless I will return to on what sir Andrzej Sapkovsky has interrupted … In due time said, what the rushed avalanche of female things is not that other how "And a horse-radish l one muzhiks write the female answer to a question?!! Than we are worse?"

Dmitry Yankovsky: Sapkovsky actually has arranged steb, and steb professional, as well as everything, that Sapkovsky does. Therefore it as the professional over this situation prostebalsja …

When it made personal Top 12, it has mentioned about a large quantity of second-grade female prose - in Russia then it, probably, yet was not, in Poland already with might and main was - with terrible ladies' complexes …

Dmitry Volodihin: And what such "ladies' complexes"? Complexes are not only at us …

But even at them …

Vlad Menshov: At Poles? …

It I about all. Poles happen different, I in general protest as the person bearing in any there atoms of Polish blood … to Consider it by a complex!

(Laughter)

Here, probably, so. Coming back to a question chitanija and the writing - the reader at female prose is?

Dmitry Yankovsky: Good prose?

No, with good all is just clear …

Dmitry Yankovsky: And another does not exist. The prose or is, or it is not present.

Vlad Menshov: There are stereotypes, coming back all to the same Fransuaze Sagan which does beautiful things and with pleasure it is possible to read it. But there are stereotypes, that boys read boys, and girls read girls. Also should be any initsiatsija, there should be a first push that the person at least took it in hands.

Dmitry Volodihin: I had this initsiatsija when I have started to read Olga Larionov "the Leopard from top Kilimandzharo" in which was much less here this female beginning, than in its other stories. "A sonata uzha" and it all here here …

Dmitry Yankovsky: To tell the truth, I am rare when paid attention to a surname of the author. And here what to speak about "to the Sonata uzha" - I have been assured till the present moment - not knowing who has written it - has what is it written the man … And "Person-amphibian" Beljaeva is a female or man's prose?

It already to me a question?

Dmitry Yankovsky: Well time has been asked such question :-). Here if without authorship? And "Ariel"?

Touch …

Vlad Menshov: Gut …

The full touch … It is said that somewhere is found such being, as "the average reader". Awful such being, usually it tabunitsja near book tents, as far as I know. It would be necessary to carry out research, but I not the zoologist. They have standards - here a man's fantasy (it is huge a cudgel-kachok at which all brains have left in bicepses, with any shaft on a shoulder), here - a female fantasy (they are such slender young ladies with the busts which are breaking off clothes - Vallejo has tried - which koldunstvami are engaged in everyones). These stereotypes wander and under books that they were on sale are all the same the market. With reference to a theme of our conversation - how to be with these stereotypes?

Vlad Menshov: So let this herd them also is read … by You have noticed, what we with Yankovsky all time somehow try to bring down you? Because us basically this herd not so interests …

And here people from whom it is impossible to take anything on a dictophone because here these two try to bring down all time somewhere, and companion Volodihin all time in general were going to answers with such monumental treatises by which end already you forget, and what question was :-)

(The general laughter)

Dmitry Volodihin: I bequeath to you the corpse, you on him will be trampled …

Yes is not present, I not the necrophilist, and in the Mausoleum already places free do not remain … (laughter) Therefore it is necessary to do something another …

Dmitry Yankovsky: Here if to carry out the analysis, how much people for today read a series "Absolute weapon" - not in percentage, and in thousand, and how much people read Cortazar, Sagan … The matter is that there is still such concept, as boredom. It would be boring to me to write that is not pleasant to me. And here that prose about which you spoke - I do not like it to read. I can be beaten for it feet, but it is not pleasant to me - me it boringly. I cannot lean in any way against opinion of it, maybe, the majority, it to me is simply uninteresting. I at all do not wish to show it as paltsovku, it, maybe, even my lack. Especially a lack as writer though this word in relation to itself at me very seldom appears on lips because this especial word. Writers I can name Strugatsky, Gevorkyan from whom at me in the childhood illness was - mortars from water pipes made …

(The general laughter)

I was sick of these things and I consider as this writing. Then - I do not remember the author - in the collection was "the Vermudsky quadrangle or Returning Redkina" is, I consider, the writer has written and it was really professional. The remarkable absolutely thing, is the literature.

Vlad Menshov: That case when the thing zakoshena under the child, the teenager, but is read also to adults not bad …

Last already a question, on snack, as already all actually and so clearly. We model for a change … Here there is at us a certain constant reader rested to a disgrace of "the Absolute weapon". It, most likely, a certain youth or somebody at which points are wider than shoulders - it sits and rejoices: "Here to me so" …

Dmitry Yankovsky: By no means. He/she is the reader, is a person, it at all the reader more precisely, he/she is the person who has got used to consume some values. That is it is the person who buys soap, a detergent powder, meal … it satisfies any requirements …

… and in the same list at it costs two-three books "joint-stock company" in a month …

Dmitry Yankovsky: … quite right. They, as a rule, at all also read houses …

… the transport literature. He knows, that wishes from it to receive …

Dmitry Yankovsky: … it is absolutely correct. And anything bad in it also is not present …

… and I also do not say, that something is bad. We model a situation. So is - and all here!

Vlad Menshov: Frequently it is absolutely conscious choice - "I do not want, that I have driven the stop. My life so is difficult, give me here it and a cud". So speak women whom these pokety consume here the dreadful - pink with love affairs …

Dmitry Yankovsky: They know, what is it not the literature …

Vlad Menshov: They know, what is it - a cud. And thanks God. And all experiments within the limits of a series "Absolute weapon" - they only prove once again, that and it is necessary, what not so good books that any average level … is necessary ideally are on sale

Here now on your eyes Divov - already traditionally "maniac Divov" …

Vlad Menshov: Russian national maniac …

! Russian national maniac Divov has made for me actually that I wished to make itself - to formulate the statement about a cud.

Dmitry Volodihin: In my opinion, the reader of "joint-stock company" is all the same the man, and the man who as it is strange, has yearned on war. And he does not know, what is it the such.

Vlad Menshov: Well here on its war that it did not starve.

Dmitry Volodihin: Here it would like war - in any quantities, any quality. And most likely - not knowing, what is it such …

Vlad Menshov: Here all reptiles in army, also it is desirable - on the artillery technics of the big capacity. That over a head has done some flying - and for all life hunting will beat off …

Dmitry Yankovsky: You still tell - under minometnyj bombardment …

Or it is simple in a "black" battalion … that was … more cheerfully

Dmitry Volodihin: It is little bit another. The desire to do some fighting all the same remains. And can, it and is useful - he lives in a verbal kind and, maybe, once again does not take a trunk in hands …

(The general expressions of the consent)

Dmitry Yankovsky: Here it is that sublimation about which Gevorkyan wrote …

(Scaredly upraising hands): Stop! Stop!!! Has gone a code already. Two smart words - "sublimation" and "cud" have sounded. Who is more sublimiruet and a cud drives - men or women in a fantasy?

All chorus: Equally!

Dmitry Volodihin: Equally by quantity, and differently - on quality.

Dmitry Yankovsky: At one cud strawberry, and at others with menthol - all difference.

Vlad Menshov: So, here and about cops has begun …

(Laughter)

(In a condition close to a panic): All! As Knyshev spoke - "women are same men, only it is better".

(General final laughter)

Dmitry Volodihin (melancholically): And - the same women, only it is even better than the man …